Holding Debate Hostage: THE DISTORTION AND RHETORIC OF A SHOW POSING AS A NEWS SHOW, ON A STATION THAT POSES AS A NEWS STATION
One of the most popular talk and radio show hosts in America apparently thinks that al-Qaeda Terrorism leader Usama Bin Laden, by voicing opinions, ought to be able to stifle debate in America -- the land of the free and home of the brave.
The following exchange, between former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and host Sean Hannity, is from the Fox Channel's Hannity and Colmes entertainment show, where they pretend to discuss serious issues, and often distort fact and logic beyond recognition in the process. (But in a "fair and balanced," way, as this manipulative channel is quick to point out every ten minutes or so.)
NEWT GINGRICH: I think it's quite clear as you point out...that binA question for Mr. Hannity, and for the many other far right wingers in the media who are using UBL to propagandize their own form of inane logic: If Bin Laden said that polls reveal that we wanted to stay in Iraq, should we then leave Iraq because of what Bin Laden says? What if Bin Laden asked us to stay? What if he asked us to leave? Separate question; why are you even listening to him?
Laden and his lieutenants are monitoring the American news media,
they're monitoring public opinion polling, and I suspect they take a
great deal of comfort when they see people attacking United States
policies. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be a free society and have
open debate, but we should recognize, when some of our politicians
use very extreme language or some of our celebrities -- like Michael
Moore -- use very extreme language, that the enemy does, in fact, take
great comfort from that. [This is an interesting point. Michael Moore's
often inane and unhelpful rantings aside, let's stifle debate for these
psychopaths on top of having 3000 of our citizens murdered,
because heaven forbid, they "take comfort." How about we
capture and eliminate them?]
HANNITY: It's more than that. I think it's also the leaders in the
Democratic Party that, from the very beginning, have undermined
this war. If I were to give you a quiz, Mr. Speaker, and if I would
say to you, "You know, was it [Sen.] Ted Kennedy [D-MA], [House
Democratic Leader] Nancy Pelosi [D-CA], [Rep.] John Murtha [D-PA]
who said, 'George Bush gives continuous, deliberate misinformation.
Polls reveal that we want to withdraw from Iraq.' " You would have
guessed either of -- any of those. Well, it was bin Laden who said that.
Hannity is arguing that by disagreeing with policy, democrats undermine it. (As a side note: does this apply when democrats are in office as well, or just when far right wing republicans are?). The host of the show preceding Hannity and Colmes, Fox's Bill O'Reilly, has often made the same point. But O'Reilly adds that "dissent is okay, undermining is not okay," without realizing that the distinction between "dissent" and "undermining" is solely dependent on the point of view of the one making this contention.
A new standard of doublespeak occurs on this channel, where Hannity, O'Reilly, and others continue to say "dissent is okay," and then almost each time an example of dissent is discussed, say that it "undermines" the war, or something else.
Hannity, taking this same illogic even further, even wrote a book that by its very title labels Despots, Terrorists, and Liberals as similarly evil.
Intriguingly, a despot is a regime leader that tightly controls information, and usurps power, often even beginning with good intentions or motives. Under the laws and Constitution of our democracy, it is difficult to do this. But the current administration, which Hannity is such a big fan of, has pushed the bounds of both the law and the Constitution to move us in this direction.
So maybe it should be "Despots, Terrorists, and Conservatives"? Both suggestions, of course, are absurd. But the first two categories cited, Despots and Terrorists, have more in common with conservative; the latter engage far more often in propaganda, and, at least today, seem to believe in far more and even unchecked power of the government over individuals. History note to conservatives; almost ALL despotism arose out of "good intentions."
With respect to Hannity's ridiculous logic, and, it can not be emphasized enough, the logic of other far right wingers in the media, the idea that democrats may make a point that terrorists may make is not a similarity, any more than the fact that if a terrorist says something correct, e.g.,"the United States is a big country," makes the terrorist any less of a terrorist. A terrorist is one defined by one's actions, and threats, not the logic of their policy belief. But that is the type of inverted logic that the right wing engages in. (Logic, incidentally, that more closely parallels the logic patterns of al-Qaeda than the logic patterns of other political groups do.) Even more ironically, the type of anti-Western fundamental Islamic extremist terrorism that we are seeing, hates our freedoms and open democracy, the very things that the far right would to some extent sacrifice under the notion of "fighting terrorists," in effect giving them an immediate victory in some sense. That is, by moving closer towards the ideal of the closed and more restrictive state that the terrorists (with the one distinguishing aspect being the "feature" religion, of course) favor -- and that we, as one of the things that as Americans distinguishes us from them -- disagree with.
[[ update: Perhaps two of the more important paragraphs written in America in a long time (albeit the first is actually a quote from George Orwell) help explain why the far right wing is so wrong -- and it is not, as some liberals often incorrectly surmise, that conservatives are "evil," or, even, "liars," but that while touting the rhetoric, they don't understand the principles that make America, America, the principles upon which this country was founded, the principles of our Constitution, and more importantly, why they matter. Read the first two paragraphs here.
Even a conservative reading these paragraphs, if minimally open minded, will be able to see how clearly they apply to the logic of Sean Hannity, and, indeed, to the very title of his best seller itself. A far right wing conservative? Often, they don't seem to be able to see this. But perhaps, other than those few who really don't believe in the fundamentals of democracy and simply don't recognize this fact(Hannity may well fit into that category), that is because the case has not been made sufficiently and consistently enough.
If there were a legitimate predominant gripe about democrats, it is is not, as Hannity suggests, that they undermine "Hannity and others'" vision of America by disagreeing with them on policy and the need to discuss that policy, it is that they don't make the correct and most important case (or any case, really, seemingly allowing the far right to dominate the debate while misfocusing on "handicapping the horse race," concluding, arguing, complaining of calling the other side names because they just can't believe that they "don't get it."). Let alone in a manner that can be understood and appreciated by a cross section of America, and, let lone focusing on it and saturating the market with it. The far right, on the other hand, constantly saturates the market with what, at least in this instance, has been clearly shown to be propaganda, even if believed by those blindly uttering it in the name of their narrow vision of what America is. And almost always constantly saturates the market with what it thinks it believes, even if wrong.
Additionally, even if what defines a "far right wing" conservative is that they really don't believe in the fundamentals of openness, limited government, and equal freedom and liberty for all that this country was founded and has grown on, that would not include most Americans. But because of all the misleading, confusing rhetoric out there, and the dearth of constant attention on the right things that need to be focused on, many people are confused, and mislead on these matters.
Such misunderstanding (and accompanying domination by rhetoric rather than reason and fact) is how and why a good portion of the world has not been completely free for much of its history. There is in fact a reason that America has stood for so long as a beacon to the world for some of these principles; Because of constant attention on them when it becomes relevant, and on an understanding of what they mean, and why they matter.]]
The hypocrisy over saying that one respects democracy on the one hand, then lashing out at one of its essential elements, on the other, are bad enough. Yet the implications of what Hannity (and to a lesser extent, other far right wingers in the media) says are worse: Does this mean that if Bin Laden said that if the Red Sox won the World Series, anybody in America who also said that the Red Sox won the World Series (or should win the world series, or any other point of view for that matter), is also a "traitor?" (As Hannity has said he thinks anybody who "undermines" the war in Iraq is). Or is it just on matters of national policy that we are stifled from debate, under the perverted "let us be ruled by what some terrorist says" logic of this joke of a show that somehow not only passes for news, but is a popular program on just about the most watched so called "news" cable station in America.
Here's another suggestion for Hannity, or for any American who thinks we are doing a great job on terrorism just because of all the rhetoric we are hearing and all the spying on Americans we are doing:
How about we catch the guy responsible for the brutal murder of 3000 American civilians, and for destroying a small portion of our largest city, then we don't need to worry about what he says.
This is America, one has a right to a view, no matter how illogical. Disagreement is also one of the cornerstones of democracy. It is ironic that that same someone (and others), whose logic is often backward, labels most of those who disagree with him as traitors. Yet Hannity (and others) does not even seem to understand the views that he condemns, or the views of those that he condemns, as not a show goes by where he does not grossly distort those views or engage in some paradigm of logic, often repeatedly.
Why would he, and other far right wingers, need to do this? If it is purposeful, Hannity is manipulating and lying to his audience. If not it means he does not even understand the views that he is condemning. That's not journalism. That's zealotry.
Those who recognize this about the show, nevertheless not only allow it and allow it to mischaracterize them, but legitimize it as well by constantly referring to or appearing on it as a source of news. Then, on the other hand, with respect to making such points as these here, instead marginalizing the station's importance as if "everybody knows this." (If they did, it wouldn't be watched, and it would not constantly be referenced as a mainstream source of news, let alone among the most watched if not most watched "news" related stations on cable television.) This needs to be reversed; That is, towards marginalizing the station's importance as a source of "news and analysis," and maximizing the manipulative effect of this station by posing as an objective source of news analysis as well as a mainstream news station when, in the coverage of policy and politics related news, it is anything but. In fact, again, typically democrats have done the opposite, counterproductively in each regard.
Where are the democrats, the moderates, the independents, even that dying breed of moderate republicans, out in the mainstream making the correct case about this station? And where are those dastardly traitors, the "liberals" themselves (although Hannity, and most of the representatives of Fox's 'balanced' hosts label almost anybody who makes a reasonable point that disagrees with their position as a "liberal"), who incorrectly marginalize Fox's importance while at the same time getting ripped apart in the public arena by it?? (also mistakenly refered to, for the search engines only, as the "Fox news channel").
For examples regarding this show, see here, here, here here, here, and here,
Here, the Dean of Hartford Seminary College convincingly argues that host Sean Hannity needs a course in basic logic.
More on the clever as a fox station itself is here, here and here.
For examples on the sister show preceding the Hannity and Colmes debacle, the "O'Reilly Factor," and its "fair and balanced" right wing conservative host [update: Not the "no spin zone" but the "Orwellian Zone"] see:
Here, here, here, here, here here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here here here, here, here, and here.
